Ring, ring, doesn't go the bell

Greetings Dear Readers,

Two days after my last post: two days after their
last phone call to me.

No call today.

Did my latest support ticket upset them?

Who knows.

But this is what I wrote.

Bye for now,


Andreas.



08 Oct 2010 04:02 PM
I had expected a phone call from Chris this
morning (my time), but as yet, 7.01 AM Perth,
Western Australia time, no call.

I also noticed you had closed the ticket.

Was that because of my entry of two days ago?

Are you trying to think up a nice argument to
refute my claims?

Put it in the hands of your legal-eagles, maybe?

Don't bother! Just refund my money: $US1869.95.

Andreas Krokene.

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GCFN and my call to them

Well, two calls, actually, in my latest post to
this blog since Friday August 13, 2010.

You see my recorder on the first call stopped
after 14-minutes and 31-seconds, killing the call.
I got another recorder. GCFN killed the call after
about about 22-minutes on the second call. In all,
I was on the phone for about 37-minutes.

I left a voice mail on the second call, followed
by another support (what a misnomer!) ticket. here
is the text of that ticket.

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I demand my money back -- MARY GERSTEN PERSONALLY

Posted On: 21 Sep 2010 04:36 PM

I called this morning (my time -- your Tuesday
afternoon) and was forced to leave a voice
message.

I do not expect you will call as you have proven
to be liars: I was promised by Skye Brodeur that
Mary Gersten would call me, but that didn't
happen. Liars.

You DO NOT read support tickets correctly and
answer as required: read what I've said and then
how you've replied.

My time zone is 15-hours ahead of yours, so, IF
you call, DON'T DO SO IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

You have shown yourself only interested in getting
money out of people and NOT actually giving
support for your over-priced and deceptive
business. READ THE TICKETS and my blog for
details:
http://globalcashflownetwork-experience.blogspot.com/

Andreas Krokene.


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Am I still wasting my time?

Not really, as the way I see it they have ripped
me off with bad support, misread my tickets (if
they even read them well in the first place and
have lied to me. Mary Gersten never called me back
as one staffer said she would.

So even more now I'm determined to get this money
back that they falsely got by, what I consider to
be, misleading advertising. They use very
believable sales talk that I can usually pick up
as man-cow manure.

The ad I responded to really seemed genuine.

They won't fool me like that and get away with it.

I'll keep you posted.

Andreas.

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A mob of mongrels -- Global Cash Flow Network and Mary Gersten

A new ticket has just been submitted, copy below.

I am heartily sick of this mob of mongrels.
What justification could they possibly have for
not answering my easy questions, especially since
Mary Gersten's Global Cash Flow Network (GCFN) is
an Internet training company for newbies?

I see a daily barrage will now be in order.

Even rude and offensive phone calls on my part.

Is that ALL GCFN understands?

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Strictly Personal For Mary Gersten Only -- Reprise
3 -- Not For Staff Attention

When?

I will not go away.

I see Mary's friend Ed Magedson is no longer
online with his ripoffreport.com

I do not like to be treated so disrespectfully and
shabbily.

This ticket, also, will be placed on my blog

http://globalcashflownetwork-experience.blogspot.com/

Andreas Krokene


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Skye Brodeur
 to me
  
show details Jun 18 (12 days ago)
  
You're message will be given to Mary.
Skye
Level II Customer Support
Global Cash Flow Network
Toll Free: 1-800-719-8270
International: 1-888-719-2030
Thank you for contacting Global Cash Flow
Network’s Support Department.
If you have any further questions or concerns,
please be sure to give us a call.
Make it a great day!

Ticket Details
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Ticket ID: UHR-438264
Department: General
Priority: Critical
Status: Open


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It's been 13 days since my last post and I have
not heard back from Mary Gersten or Global Cash
Flow Network (GCFN).

So I logged into my account with them and
discovered that my last ticket has been closed.
And this from a legitimate Internet training
company! The mind boggles.

SO, I have sent Reprise 2; that is the same title,
but where it says Reprise 1 now it reads Reprise
2.

On or about the same day as my last ticket I sent
an email to http://ripoffreport.com/ . Yet as of
writing this post there has been no reply. It
seems that the owner of http://ripoffreport.com/
is one Ed Magedson, who appears to have a rather
dubious history, and seems to be in hiding. Well,
that's what I've read. So one must wonder about
the value of http://ripoffreport.com/ , mustn't
one?

So, without further ado here's the newly submitted
ticket for your reading amusement.

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HOT OFF THE PRESS: STOP PRESS


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Strictly Personal For Mary Gersten Only
-- Reprise 2 -- Not For Staff Attention

Mary

You did not even bother to give me a written reply
to my earlier ticket, Reprise 1.

The simple matter is I asked two (2) very simple,
clearly stated questions of almost trivial
importance, and yet I could not get a correct
answer from you, only an irrelevant on.

That's incredible from a legitimate Internet
training company!

So I am forced to re-submit this ticket and get
you to go back through all the previous tickets to
see what I mean.

I will not simply go away.

Mary: Can I leave this in YOUR PERSONAL CAPABLE
HANDS? This is not for your staff.

Andreas Krokene.

**************** My previous ticket.

I do not consider this matter closed. I DEMAND a
written answer. I have paid you good money, and
you can't even answer my simple questions. Go
through ALL my previous tickets for details.

YOU ARE CORPORATELY IGNORANT. YES, I AM SHOUTING.

"Make it a great day!" INDEED!

Kenneth Parker DID call me around 6:00 AM, my time
(not impressed) and did not seem to know what I
had written in any previous emails. He did suggest
that I should specify when I would prefer an email
response. I had mentioned it! Do you really care
about your paying clients, or are you really a con
and a scam? I had hoped not, but I'm not so sure
anymore.

As for your clean bill of health from The Ripoff
Report: That must also be questioned. Your
sponsorship of the Boys and Girls Club of America
doesn't prove anything either as you could be a
"sponsor" for $100.00 or so.

Mary: Will you actually answer this, or will your
minions (if they know what that means!)?

****************************


Strictly Personal For Mary Gersten Only


Ticket Details
Ticket ID: ZRU-710106 Department: General
Status: Closed Priority: Critical
Created On: 31 May 2010 05:53 AM Last Update: 31
May 2010 07:47 PM
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Status: Priority:
Conversation
Andreas Krokene
Posted On: 31 May 2010 05:53 AM
Greetings Mary,

I submitted the ticket "Two matters for your
attention" (refer to your records for details) on
May 25, 2010, and to date I have NOT received a
satisfactory answer.

My questions were easy to understand, the
communication was polite, but still no
satisfactory response from your staff.

The questions I asked may have been beneath your
staff member's dignity to answer, but to me they
are important. Don't they, therefore, require a
respectful and complete answer?

I now must wonder if this is your Company's usual
standard of business, and if this is how you treat
ALL your paying clients.

As part of your suggestion in the training that I
have completed so far, these details are all being
chronicled for anyone who cares to do their due
diligence on my Blogger blog.

You can see the blog at
http://globalcashflownetwork-experience.blogspot.com/

I trust you can assist me.

If not, then please be decent enough to refund all
my money.

Kindest regards,

Andreas Krokene.


Skye Brodeur
Posted On: 31 May 2010 07:47 PM
Your concern has been forwarded and you will
contacted as soon as possible
Skye
Level II Customer Support
Global Cash Flow Network
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Thank you for contacting Global Cash Flow
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If you have any further questions or concerns,
please be sure to give us a call.
Make it a great day!

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Yawn...

Yada, yada yesterday. Yawn today.

Just after 6:00 AM today Global Cash Flow Network
called to answer my latest ticket. Do you remember
it? That's the one sent to Mary Gersten
personally. (There existed a sneaky suspicion that
Mary would not see it and this call seems to
confirm it.)

The person who called said my concerns were not
raised in the ticket (remember this ticket
basically complains about the lack of simple
questions asked but not answered by GCFN Support),
and now he was on the line with me would I ask him
the questions. I said, No, as Jaffa (my cat)
wanted breakfast, coffee (albeit instant) needed
to course its way to my heart so the day could
start, and generally there existed an air of
peevishness at my latest ticket being handled by a
minion, and not by Mary Gersten, personally.

Said minion advised that he would be in the office
for about another hour, to which was expected (by
me) an email to my earlier-asked questions (in
previous tickets). No dice!

He also said if an email response was required
that should be mentioned in the support ticket.
(If he'd re-read the previous tickets , he
would've seen that point covered, and he was the
one who personally DID NOT answer the very simple
questions in the first place!)

Now, Dear Reader, you must remember that GCFN is a
global company; its name is Global Cash Flow
Network. As such, shouldn't there be at least some
representation after their normal business hours
to cater for their international client base? Yes?
No? Maybe? Unsure?

There was such promise for this programme to be a
fantastic opportunity, and yet so far, GCFN is
blowing it. GCFN is failing the acid test of
decency and professionalism, in my opinion.

Of course, it could just be me, couldn't it!

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Further to May 26, 2010 Report: Will it ever end?

Well, today I got another reply, which makes me
ask the question: Does Global Cash Flow Network
read the emails they get from their clients?

I mean, when you read Global Cash Flow Network's
reply (please refresh your memory by reading
previous posts) you will see that my questions are
NOT answered.

Is this any way to treat a paying client? Is it me
or is it Global Cash Flow Network?

I'm not thick, but Global Cash Flow Network seems
either 1 not to understand basic English or 2
cannot handle even the most basic questions!

A little later I will try again with a new ticket
and see if I get anywhere.

Watch this space.

Without much further ado, The Fraidy Cat Marketer
presents:
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www.myglobaltrainingcenter.com is your training site, as well the difference of the curriculum and the getting certified, is the curriculum tells you what steps are needed to be done next to continue moving forward. To become certified are methods of media placement to teach you how to advertise your sites, which is the 14 step check list. And if you have any more questions contact level 2 support.

Make it a great day!

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I've Started Global Cash Flow Network Training

I must say straight off: The training I find seems to be all over the place. There doesn't seem to be one master list to run through in order to get started, but a number of places, which seem OK for their purpose. I like the approach of start here then do this, follow with that, etc.

For example: I started to read the manual that was shipped to me from the US, but I find I am distracted by all the other sheets of paper which tell me to do a whole lot of other things beforehand. A lot of this stuff seems excessive to me, and is downright confusing.

So I then find myself at the Training with Mary page and watch one of the videos about adding Google Adsense to my blogs, namely this one and The Fraidy Cat Marketer. (Although Mary Gersten only suggested adding Adsense to my Global Cash Flow Network blog, this one, that will be useful in promoting GCFN. But I do this my way simply because I want to maximise my marketing benefit, and I'm still in two minds about this programme. (Plenty of times in the past I've signed people into programmes, but not gotten their contact details. They haven't panned out, so hence, I've lost out. No more!)

(By the way: Marketers often talk about investing and return on investment [ROI]. For my take on investing read Invest or Spend? Let me know what you think of it.)

Even after doing this training tonight, which was good, I've lost my train of thought. Therefore, I will call it quits for the moment and write again, soon.

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How I Got Started With Global Cash Flow Network (GCFN)

I saw a banner with a testimony from an Australian
lass who sold for various US Fortune 500 companies
placing "media" and that sounded right up my
alley. This led me to Global Cash Flow Network
(GCFN) and their Certified Media Placement
Specialist (CMPS) course.

Global Cash Flow Network (GCFN) uses persuasive
sales copy to get people to join them in their
Certified Media Placement Specialist (CMPS)
course. (I must admit their approach is good
salemanship.)

So when on April 22, 2010 they phoned (6:30 AM my
time), I bit. Then I did the research (see a list
of web sites below to check out) and I wished I
hadn't! But that's life. The cost to me was about
$A2,000.00 on my credit card. (And $A2,000.00 is
at the bottom end of their subscription rates!)

They wanted more.

They claim to have a guarantee that will be
honoured after giving Global Cash Flow Network
(GCFN) a good workout over 12 months, but some
criticism suggests that may be otherwise. The
problem is the training involves promoting them,
and if what I've read is correct, I don't wish to
promote them.

After all, on the Internet reputation is
everything, and once reputation is destroyed it's
hard to get back.

So what should I do?

One thing they want their students to do is start
a Blogspot blog, which this is. However, I don't
think this is quite what they had in mind.

You see, I'm not going to rubber stamp everything
they say, but I will ask them questions and post
them here. Their response to this should be
interesting.

So why am I taking this course of action?

On the face of it (please go through the following
list of links and any other research that you care
to to do) it seems highly likely that this is a
scam.

For instance; I came across a complaint that
someone was paying $US47.00 per moonth for the two
web sites they supply, but I had never come across
this charge in the sales presentation. So I sent
an email asking if there was such a charge.

I have an email from their support desk confirming
my ticket to them dated May 9, 2010.

On May 11, 2010 I received the following;

"I have forwarded this concern and you will be
contacted as soon as possible
Skye"

On May 14, 2010 I received this reply answering my
question;

"Hi Andreas

I am returning your message that you left. I just
wanted to let you know that there is no $47.00
hosting fee. We have done away with this charge."

Kevin

My problem with this way of answering is this:
Either there is a $47.00 charge or there isn't. So
why couldn't someone answer that after two (2)
days?

One of the things scammers do is delay answering
and use all sorts of delaying tactics to wear
people out and in the case of a refund these
people then give up and the scammer has their
money essentially under false pretenses.

If Global Cash Flow Network (GCFN) is genuine,
then why do this?

Now, in all fairness, I will go through their
training because I would like to be wrong in all
this. If I am wrong, then I will apologise on this
blog.

Andreas Krokene

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